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Post by ilovepat on May 28, 2008 17:49:10 GMT -1
Okay - obsessed with this! Didn't really know about it until the other thread mentioned youtube clip. So does anyone know more about it? Who was the Patricia equivalent? It sounds great - much more like Sons and Daughters than Sons and Daughters!!
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Post by dee16 on May 28, 2008 18:01:07 GMT -1
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Post by James on May 29, 2008 11:56:14 GMT -1
Originally there were 2 families - one rich & one poor. Seperated twins meet - fall in love & a horrified Aunt Fiona tries to stop it. The twin thing comes out because one has leukaemia (I think). The original poor father is still in the show and the only other origina character left is "Charlie" Schneider who is /was the ditzy best friend of Clarissa - the rich mother. Clarissa was the bitch for ages - they also had another on & off one who is currently (one of - the other possibly being Elizabeth) the bitches - a lovely lady called Tanja. They have had several families but people have returned over the years but generally the same rich / poor - although their rich tend to be Count or Countess. fab!
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Post by James on May 29, 2008 17:50:57 GMT -1
Thanks for putting that one Dee. btw - what did you think? there are some with english subs. best theme since S&D too! www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkGETGvTFlcthe woman at the end of the credits is the current baddie - Tanja
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Post by czb on May 29, 2008 19:55:39 GMT -1
A while ago, I bought a copy of one of the German DVD releases of this series - www.amazon.de/Verbotene-Liebe-Kerstin-Kramer/dp/B0007GADQ8/ref=pd_bxgy_d_text_b/302-4692157-7784002- although I'm sure it was rather cheaper than it is now. Although I think it had a variety of special features (for example, "making of"s and maybe things like "title sequences through the ages"), the main feature was some kind of extended/compiled special episode in which one (or more?) of the main characters goes on a cruise, and one or more adversaries and friends follow her. While it still retained the essence of "Sons and Daughters" in terms of this sort of plot (and I'm pretty sure someone ended up being pushed into the ship's swimming pool - they might even have been in a wheelchair!), I guess this was a long way into the series, and they had long since left the original storylines behind. It was interesting nonetheless - and I see there is now another volume celebrating a more recent landmark: www.amazon.de/Verbotene-Liebe-3-000-Die-Jubil%C3%A4ums/dp/B000TIZ1RK/ref=pd_bxgy_d_img_bI'll probably get one of those too, once the price comes down a bit!
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Post by dee16 on May 29, 2008 20:26:11 GMT -1
well i'm fluent in german so it was easy for me to understand....
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Post by dee16 on May 29, 2008 20:28:56 GMT -1
Sorry guys. The last post was a lie..lol
The only German I know is Guten Tag Auf Wiedersehen and Bier.....lol
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Post by ilovepat on Jun 5, 2008 6:49:52 GMT -1
oh my god how i want to watch forbidden love!!! Great links! If anyone could tell mre more information would be greratly appreciated!!
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Post by James on Jun 5, 2008 14:44:55 GMT -1
well some very kind Germans upload current episodes onto Youtube. Pity I don't really speak much German - I'd be hooked. www.daserste.de/verboteneliebe/is the official website. I have to say that German / Swiss / Austrian tv has some great looking soaps running every day - from quite early on in the morning through to early evening. I'd never get to work if I lived there
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Post by James on Jul 4, 2008 20:20:50 GMT -1
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQD8jlM7f1kA 4 minute trailer for the original series. The German "Aunt Fiona" - (they kept the character's name - alonng with Charlie) looks spookily like Pat MacDonald. Guess which actress is their Patricia (Clarissa) ;D The murder storyline looks identical too.
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Post by czb on Jan 28, 2010 19:07:10 GMT -1
Others who have expressed an interest here in this German series that was inspired by "Sons and Daughters" may be as delighted as I was to discover that its first fifty episodes have just been officially released on a German five-DVD set: www.amazon.de/gp/product/images/B002P3J38A/sr=8-1-spell/qid=1264699596/ref=dp_image_z_0?ie=UTF8&n=284266&s=dvd&qid=1264699596&sr=8-1-spell I ordered it from Amazon Germany (if you're registered with any other Amazon website, the same username and passwords work): www.amazon.de/Verbotene-Liebe-alles-begann-DVDs/dp/B002P3J38A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1264699596&sr=8-1-spell - but it is also available at a similar price from the equally reliable www.jpc.de www.jpc.de/jpcng/movie/detail/-/art/Verbotene-Liebe-Wie-alles-begann-Box-1-Folge-1-50/hnum/6135631 Putting the description on the DVD sleeve through a translation engine: At the airport, the young, good-looking Jan Brandner and the charming Julia von Anstetten meet for the first time, and instantly fall in love. But Jan and Julia do not suspect that they are actually twins, who were separated directly after their birth. While Jan up grew up with his father Arno Brandner and his later wife Iris in rather middle class surroundings, Julia enjoyed the privileged life of Düsseldorf high society, because her mother, Clarissa, married the nobleman Christoph von Anstetten, owner of Friedenau Castle, soon after Julia's birth. Two worlds clash - the normal everyday life of the Brandners and the wealth of the von Anstettens. Yet the forbidden love takes its course and throws the lives of these families into disarray. The games of love and intrigue begin....... Sounds familiar! Naturally, as this remake began airing at the beginning of 1995, it has been modernised to some extent, with some storylines developing quite differently, and/or at a different pace. For example, in "Sons and Daughters" Patricia discovers from Fiona that "Scott" is actually her son John at the end of episode 17, and they discuss this further as the scene continues at the beginning of episode 18 - whereas there is almost identical dialogue in which Clarissa discovers from Fiona that "Peter" is actually her son Jan at the end of episode 33 and the beginning of episode 34 of "Verbotene Liebe"! And there are many other sequences that have hardly changed at all - such as various flashbacks to twenty years earlier in the opening episode (which are, however, spread out throughout mainly present-day action, instead of all coming right at the beginning - as the text says, the first episode actually begins with a chance meeting at an airport). As the German series aired five nights a week, it's similarly predominantly studio-based, with only occasional exterior filming (I wondered if we were going to see Julia fall off a horse, as did Angela - and yes, that still happens!) and from time to time there are still establishing shots of the grand castle and the more shabby suburban home.......night-time in the city.......and even a bridge over an expanse of water! There are only fifty speaking roles in this opening set of fifty episodes - with many of those being only incidental characters. the only other original character left is "Charlie"; Schneider who is /was the ditzy best friend of Clarissa - the rich mother. .......yes, including Charlie, who only appears briefly in just eight of these early episodes - but it's explained here that, as with the original Charlie, her role becomes much more significant later on: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Schneider Fifteen years later, she is apparently still in the series. In contrast, while Gordon, Beryl, Wayne and Fiona remained in "Sons and Daughters" throughout, Christophe, Iris, Henning and Fiona were all later dramatically killed off at various points in "Verbotene Liebe". (Fiona Beckmann, surprisingly, doesn't appear to have survived beyond the opening couple of years!) However, the main focus of the beginning is Jan and Julia - each only absent from one of the first fifty episodes! - and their respective families, including Jan's brother and sister Florian and Susanne [Kevin and Susan], plus Fiona and the nice former prostitute who lodges with her, Sophie [Jill]. However, as the von Sternecks, the Armstrongs have a more signifiant role in the beginning of this new version - Barbara [Barbara, the only other main character retaining the same first name!], her son Gero [Simon] and her more rarely-seen daughter Kati [Wendy]. Oh, and according to this: www.beyenbach-allmedia.de/barbara-von-sterneck.htm .......this Barbara also marries Christophe [Gordon] later on in the series! The murder storyline looks identical too. Indeed - perhaps German viewers may have been shocked at the fate which befalls Jan's boss, Fritz, not long after we first meet him at the fitness centre where Jan and his friend Oliver [Bill], boyfriend of his sister Susanne [Susan], work, but anyone familiar with "Sons and Daughters" could have seen it coming! I've found watching this DVD set over the last few days fascinating. Although Angela discovers that she is John's sister in episode 27 of "Sons and Daughters", Julia still hasn't found out Jan is her brother by the end of these first fifty episodes of "Verbotene Liebe". However, there's always the next volume of episodes 51-100, due for release at the end of next month: www.jpc.de/jpcng/movie/detail/-/art/Verbotene-Liebe-Wie-alles-begann-Box-2-Folge-51-100/hnum/8776458
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Post by James on Feb 2, 2010 8:41:52 GMT -1
I assume there are no english subtitles or language selection.
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Post by czb on Feb 2, 2010 22:48:09 GMT -1
I assume there are no english subtitles or language selection. Sorry, no - just a single German soundtrack, with no subtitles available in any language.
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